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On the VT Tech shootings

April 18, 2007

I held of two days to comment on the whole insanity that happened at Virginia Tech.

First of all it isn’t really too surprise, the US, as a society, seems to fall apart, there are myriad of examples on how this is happening every day.

But as expected, the bodies not even cold yet, the pro and con gun control lobbies where in full swing, only to be upstaged by some right wing commentators who “blamed the victims” for 33 dead.

It obviously is a tragedy for 33 families who have to buried the ones they cared deeply about, the Internet, in return, has fallen into the usual condolences overload that seems to grip the nation by storm…. Why people feel the need to cry for people they don’t know, I don’t understand. But I do understand that this is not a good sign.

There is some sanity from Greg Palast, but of course the fight over the gun control issue is raging…..

So here’s my take on it:

Gun control will not save the United States. I know there is the thought by some people on the left if the guns wouldn’t be there, all these deaths wouldn’t happen, and chances are they are right, it is hard to kill 32 people with a knife, a sword, a crossbow or a bow & arrow. It is hard to do that with a long rifle too.

But the reality is there are too many firearms already in circulation in the United States. An estimated 200 million firearms are in private hands in the US, and that only includes the legal ones, this doesn’t count the illegal guns that are being sold and shipped to other states.

Even if Congress would enact a law tomorrow that would outlaw all handguns they would still be around.

The idea behind the second amendment was laudable, the need for it was clear back in the day. But 200 years have passed, gun technology has advanced, and a rifle won’t guarantee your safety against the government anymore, they have more guns, tanks, airplanes……

One of the arguments that is constantly given is the fact that if all the students would have been armed they could have taken down the guy and saved lives. But the reality is that most people would probably have dropped to the ground and hid, gun or not. If they would have chosen to actually fire their guns, chances are they would have also hid other “good guys”. If you’re high on adrenaline and in fear of your life you shoot at anything that you consider a threat….. But “gun nuts” don’t see it that way. They want more guns out there, do away with “Gun Free” zones and arm everybody to their teeth.

I am doubtful that more guns would have changed a thing. I have travelled in several countries and had contact with a lot of law officers, but never outside the US did I see cops go for their guns right from the start. One cop, in Washington D. C. told me that essentially they always expect anybody to be armed and pulling a gun. If a the cops are scared of the populace, no wonder everybody else is scared too.

The answer for the US won’t be easy, the fact that they are grieving for 33 people is tragic, but at the same time it seems 150 people died in Baghdad the same day, it didn’t even get close the amount of airtime as the shootings did….

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One comment

  1. In 2005 there were 6.4 Million auto accidents in the U.S. of which there were 42,636 fatalities recorded, and 2.9 million injured. Far more deaths and injuries than Vietnam, the Gulf War, and the present conflicted combined. And for what? The freedom of transportation. Shall we eliminate autos, or sue auto mfg’ers?

    Averaging about 42,000 fatalities per year, by the end of FY 2007 we
    will have had 252,000 deaths in automobiles since 9/11. These crashes cost taxpayers $230 Billion per year.

    Illegal aliens kill 12 Americans a day, on average. Annually, this is more Americans killed by illegal aliens than died on 9/11. Shall we sue Mexico? Or George Bush for his proposed Amnesty Bill?

    No one seems to have a problem with those American deaths. And I’m not even counting Americans killed on roadways at the hands of illegal aliens driving without license or insurance; these same illegals flee the scene after they’ve hurt or killed people – I know, I work in auto insurance. Plus, 80% of the theft claims I handle were committed by illegal aliens. Ever wonder why your insurance premium is so much higher in southern border states?

    Ever read the stories about the senior citizen who plowed into a busy market, killing a dozen or more people instantly? It happens a couple times every year in the U.S. Where is the outcry against senior citizens having driver’s licenses? Shall we sue AARP for lobbying for their driving rights well into their 90’s ? Or shall we sue their kids who let Mom drive with dimentia and cataracts at age 82 ?

    You all remember the Clock Tower Sniper in Texas? 1966. The guy freaking told two university doctors, one a psychiatrist, that he had urges to go up in the tower and shoot people with a rifle — and this was 4 mos before the shootings! Like Virginia Tech, the university doctors did nothing to protect the university population or society. It’s all about the rights of one demented person, screw the protection and rights of society as a whole. Same with Virginia Tech, same with Columbine. There were plenty people who suspected these people were dangerous to themselves and others and said NOTHING. And did NOTHING. If the Secret Service and airport security takes EVERY threat seriously, whether verbal or in writing, jokingly or not, why wouldn’t you? Don’t you value your life or the lives of your friends, colleagues and neighbors as much as those government agencies? Is your life any less important?

    How about the Luby’s Caferteria Massacre in Killeen, TX in 1991? One armed citizen could have stopped the largest mass-murder in U.S. history (it was at the time). A witness to this tradgedy, for whom both parents were killed, went on to sponsor the first CHL legislation in the nation, and which passed in Texas over then-Governor Ann Richard’s veto. CHL armed Texans have been saving lives ever since.

    Truth is, one armed Virginian with a CHL license could have stopped Cho dead in HIS tracks. The irony was Virginia Tech officials saying their university was NOW safe since that bill passed forbidding handguns on campus. Truth is, it now made them sitting ducks.

    Next time you’re sitting in a movie theater, on opening night, not a seat to be found, think how easy it would be to bar the sole entrance/exit and set the theater on fire… or for 1 gunman to come in, stand in front of the exit, and start killing hundreds? YET ALL IT TAKES IS ONE ARMED CITIZEN WITH A CHL LICENSE TO STOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM HAPPENING.

    Bad people will get guns, or build bombs, or set buildings on fire, or put poison in aspirin, et cetera. There’s always a way to mass murder once you’re commited to it. But usually there’s signs, and we Americans keep ignoring those signs, and the weirdos giving us those signs. Why? I don’t know. If Cho was my roommate and I knew he purchased a handgun, or had been stalking girls, I’d have been the first to call local law enforcement or the FBI.

    Greg, a 7mm? This shows you don’t even have the slightest clue about anything when it comes to firearms. And your childish allusion that all Austrians and anything from Germany/Austria is evil was pure childish nonsense, something an ignorant high school sophomore might try to slip past in a writing assignment.

    Grow up, people. If he walks, talks and writes like a hippie, HE IS A HIPPIE.



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